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Hats Off to Hale — Episode 25

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November 7, 2013 by Stephanie

Hale has been through some changes since we first met him, evolving from a more one-dimensional ladies' man character to a more fleshed out individual struggling with people's expectations of him. With our guest contributor Sally (@sheaven), we discuss Hale's journey from sidekick to acting Ash, Hale's approach to power, how his character challenges gender expectations, and more.

Drink Special: Santiago Cocktail

½ tsp Powdered sugar
¼ tsp Grenadine
Juice of 1 Lime
1½ oz Light rum

Shake with ice and strain into a martini glass.

First Impressions

  • Kris: Nice hat.
  • Sally: Snappy dresser, nice abs, Dyson's sounding board
  • Annie: This man's a player (playa?)
  • Stephanie: Kind of gross/sexist, until he befriends Kenzi

Hale hugging Kenzi in Lost Girl 2x08

Hale's Background

  • Sally thinks Hale has deliberately chosen to be in the sidekick role, because he is one of the “non-idle rich.”
  • Empathy for humans became a prominent storyline for Hale and his family in season two. We couldn't recall any references to Hale's stance on humans in the first season.
  • Hale and his mother are sirens, and Val (and possibly their father) are pomberos, who steal voices. Perhaps this unlikely marriage affected Hale's perspective of humans?
  • Stephanie thinks Hale has the best powers of any of the main characters.

Hale's Transition to a Leadership Role

  • Sally points out that we never see Hale use his powers in his role as acting Ash.
  • Hale's off-screen transition in season three from hesitant leader to Ash-hole has left us with questions.
    • Stephanie is curious about the transition from not wanting to be involved in politics in season two to being acting Ash in season three.
    • Kris thinks it might have to do with seeing everyone's lack of action in response to the Garuda.
  • Sally saw season three Hale as a John F. Kennedy type character.
  • Annie points out that Hale's relationships (especially with Kenzi) suffer because of his new role. There is a struggle to balance the personal with the political.
  • Ash-Hale is unlikable, but he became likable again once he abdicated the office (if that's what actually happened).
  • Sally posits that some people aren't suited to leadership. Stephanie mentions that Hale seems to like being in a supporting role.

What's Coming In Season 4?

  • Is Hale still up to something at the end of the third season? Hopefully we'll find out!
  • Annie's surprised that Hale outright declared his love for Kenzi.
  • Does Hale want Vex to become leader of the Dark Fae? Or is it an unintended consequence? Necessary evil?
  • Was The Morrigan in on Taft's plan? Sally wants answers, Lost Girl writers!
  • We're looking forward to seeing Hale in season four! What lasting impact will his time as Ash have?

Hale in tux in Lost Girl 3x12

Why We Love K.C. Collins

  • I think we might all have crushes on K.C. Collins.
  • He has a beautiful smile and a warm disposition.
  • He's very sweet and seems to blush easily (particularly when his cast-mates are trying to embarrass him).
  • Abs. (Which he shouldn't have to show us if he doesn't want to!)

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